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I can't breathe!

X-Rayzor

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On a warm evening in August, I decided to give it another try to get a breakthrough to hyperspace. Tried many times to get this done without success. Tried many ways and this time I used a self-made "machine".
I load my pipe with 40mg of the beautiful white crystal and after 3 deep inhales take the thick white vapors. I lie down and unfortunately only get slight sightings of alien-like shapes and figures. After about 5 minutes I get up slightly frustrated.
After some recovery and some light meditation and breathing techniques I decided to give it another chance. Now I somehow skipped to weigh my crystals and threw an unknown amount into my pipe. Sat down and let it melt quietly into the steel wool.
Quietly after some deep breaths I took my first hit.
Now I noticed immediately after the first sip that it was different from all the times before. After 20 seconds of holding the first white vapor I took a 2nd big hit and very soon everything around me started to change very quickly.
I felt completely calm and knew from experience that this is quite normal.
Time and perception disappeared like snow in the sun, so I had no idea how long I had been holding my breath.
Still, I knew I had to take that last hit as well, so I emptied my lungs and took a big gulp of air first. I took the pipe to my mouth again, but I just didn't see a pipe or a lighter. I just had these in my hands, but it was more like I was sucking on my arms. Despite all the craziness, I still managed to get a big 3rd hit and put everything away safely. And then, suddenly, everything was gone. I had no idea if I lay down or whatever.
In my experience, I arrived at a huge wall and was met by an identity. He stopped me hard and stood in front of me. He laughed a little and suddenly came very close to me.
And then it happened. He turned everything inside out, everything that I am was turned inside out. I was surprised what happened and looked at him. He laughed again and made me feel like saying "pay attention now". Suddenly, he let all my senses be stimulated 1 by 1. First my sight and saw with 1 eye my PC screen. And then my taste 1 by 1. Sweet, salty, bitter, sour.
Then it was my hearing's turn. Spongle was playing in the background and I could hear it on the left and then on the right. Then I got all the skin stimuli 1 by 1. Pain. cold, hot. I was very surprised what happened and looked at him again. This time he laughed even harder.
And that's when it got really frightening. He took me to the wall and pulled me half in. I panic a bit because of this and try to keep breathing.
This is because breathing always helps me when I feel some form of panic during a psychedelic experience. Only now I found out that I couldn't breathe.
In fact, I had no idea how to breathe. This made me panic even more and I looked at the identity with fear. I felt like I didn't need oxygen here, but I was terrified if my body would still breathe in the other reality.
Again he came very close to me and turned my whole way of breathing inside out. He laughed even harder and said "trust me" over and over again. I noticed that I was going to force it and noticed that with a lot of effort I could find my breath again in severe panic.
I also knew that this is not the right way in this environment and that I should let myself go.
I was so shocked by this that I wanted to get out. But that didn't work because I was still stuck in the wall. I realized I had to let myself go. I thought I was going to die if I didn't come out of the wall and I was very worried about my body if it would still breathe.
But still, I just let myself go and the identity nodded at me and gave me a wink. All of a sudden I opened my eyes again and I was half back in my real body, and I could still breathe.
I was so happy to be back and to be able to breathe. I had no idea how long I had been away, but it felt like an eternity for me. Time is not a factor in the DMT world.
I am still overwhelmed by what happened then and wonder if other people have experienced this too. Have anyone ever had the feeling that they can't breathe? Is it something normal when you're in the DMT realm? Or should I have just let myself go more and not worried about my breathing?
 
On a warm evening in August, I decided to give it another try to get a breakthrough to hyperspace. Tried many times to get this done without success. Tried many ways and this time I used a self-made "machine".
I load my pipe with 40mg of the beautiful white crystal and after 3 deep inhales take the thick white vapors. I lie down and unfortunately only get slight sightings of alien-like shapes and figures. After about 5 minutes I get up slightly frustrated.
After some recovery and some light meditation and breathing techniques I decided to give it another chance. Now I somehow skipped to weigh my crystals and threw an unknown amount into my pipe. Sat down and let it melt quietly into the steel wool.
Quietly after some deep breaths I took my first hit.
Now I noticed immediately after the first sip that it was different from all the times before. After 20 seconds of holding the first white vapor I took a 2nd big hit and very soon everything around me started to change very quickly.
I felt completely calm and knew from experience that this is quite normal.
Time and perception disappeared like snow in the sun, so I had no idea how long I had been holding my breath.
Still, I knew I had to take that last hit as well, so I emptied my lungs and took a big gulp of air first. I took the pipe to my mouth again, but I just didn't see a pipe or a lighter. I just had these in my hands, but it was more like I was sucking on my arms. Despite all the craziness, I still managed to get a big 3rd hit and put everything away safely. And then, suddenly, everything was gone. I had no idea if I lay down or whatever.
In my experience, I arrived at a huge wall and was met by an identity. He stopped me hard and stood in front of me. He laughed a little and suddenly came very close to me.
And then it happened. He turned everything inside out, everything that I am was turned inside out. I was surprised what happened and looked at him. He laughed again and made me feel like saying "pay attention now". Suddenly, he let all my senses be stimulated 1 by 1. First my sight and saw with 1 eye my PC screen. And then my taste 1 by 1. Sweet, salty, bitter, sour.
Then it was my hearing's turn. Spongle was playing in the background and I could hear it on the left and then on the right. Then I got all the skin stimuli 1 by 1. Pain. cold, hot. I was very surprised what happened and looked at him again. This time he laughed even harder.
And that's when it got really frightening. He took me to the wall and pulled me half in. I panic a bit because of this and try to keep breathing.
This is because breathing always helps me when I feel some form of panic during a psychedelic experience. Only now I found out that I couldn't breathe.
In fact, I had no idea how to breathe. This made me panic even more and I looked at the identity with fear. I felt like I didn't need oxygen here, but I was terrified if my body would still breathe in the other reality.
Again he came very close to me and turned my whole way of breathing inside out. He laughed even harder and said "trust me" over and over again. I noticed that I was going to force it and noticed that with a lot of effort I could find my breath again in severe panic.
I also knew that this is not the right way in this environment and that I should let myself go.
I was so shocked by this that I wanted to get out. But that didn't work because I was still stuck in the wall. I realized I had to let myself go. I thought I was going to die if I didn't come out of the wall and I was very worried about my body if it would still breathe.
But still, I just let myself go and the identity nodded at me and gave me a wink. All of a sudden I opened my eyes again and I was half back in my real body, and I could still breathe.
I was so happy to be back and to be able to breathe. I had no idea how long I had been away, but it felt like an eternity for me. Time is not a factor in the DMT world.
I am still overwhelmed by what happened then and wonder if other people have experienced this too. Have anyone ever had the feeling that they can't breathe? Is it something normal when you're in the DMT realm? Or should I have just let myself go more and not worried about my breathing?
Ive never experianced the .... im not breathing thing...

But ive never vaped 40mgs of the molecule...usually 25 to 30mgs max...

Some people feel like they are not breathing...usually because their dose was not weighed correctly... and was too high...

Believe me you are breathing just fine!....just take a break for a while and lower your dose some...

When tripping ...the time between your inhales and exhales...can seem very long...thats because time cant be measured the same... when tripping...10 seconds can seem like 10 minutes....stop worrying and trust your wet wear....as long as your healthy you will be fine...
 
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I've experienced the breathing issue several times. Comes on as body disassociates from mind, and manifests as a fear that you need to manually force yourself to breathe since it won't happen by itself. It's not a great place to be, since calming/reassuring yourself or focusing on breathing takes away from the experience. Don't have any great advice unfortunately, other than just submitting wholly to the journey beforehand so that you glide past this phase.
 
Thanks for your comments!
So it's just a phase that I have to get through, right?
And indeed, the dose was also a bit too much. I can do something with this information.
Thanks again.
 
Don't use unknown amounts of DMT.
Don't use if you are (slightly) psychotic, especially not high dose.
It could be that your previous dose was not totally used up. That, plus adding even more then 40mg, seem too much to me.
Time dilution is a thing (15 seconds can seem 15 minutes or longer).
Try to have a trip sitter. The sitter can help administer correctly, calm you down if you panic, and start CPR in the rare case that you really arrest your breathing.
Don't Panic. Let go.
Have the utmost respect taking the molecule. It throws you near some kind of 'death' (at least ego-death) state.
Meditate about your fear of death. Know you will most likely not die. These two will lower your panic.

Apart from your panic, your trip report describes a rather deep and nice experience.
Shpongle ❤️ 'I am you.. and you are me!'
 
Doing dmt, 5 meo dmt and mushrooms. Have never weighed the amount? My body just tells me when is enough. Just go with the flow, if it's to much then that was supposed to happen and enjoy it.
I'm sorry but that's just straight up irresponsible advice that I'll kindly ask you to refrain giving to people on this forum.

And to anyone reading this - please, always be responsible and weigh your doses properly. Being reckless can lead you to some positive outcomes, but it can also lead you to some horrible situations that I don't want to get into. There's plenty of reports that cover such cases.
 
Don't use unknown amounts of DMT.
Don't use if you are (slightly) psychotic, especially not high dose.
It could be that your previous dose was not totally used up. That, plus adding even more then 40mg, seem too much to me.
Time dilution is a thing (15 seconds can seem 15 minutes or longer).
Try to have a trip sitter. The sitter can help administer correctly, calm you down if you panic, and start CPR in the rare case that you really arrest your breathing.
Don't Panic. Let go.
Have the utmost respect taking the molecule. It throws you near some kind of 'death' (at least ego-death) state.
Meditate about your fear of death. Know you will most likely not die. These two will lower your panic.

Apart from your panic, your trip report describes a rather deep and nice experience.
Shpongle ❤️ 'I am you.. and you are me!'
Thanks for these tips. I definitely have to work on these fears for now and am going to spend the next session trying to let me go.
I'm also going to weigh everything up from now on.
I'm ready to be sphongled next time ❤❤❤
 
Doing dmt, 5 meo dmt and mushrooms. Have never weighed the amount? My body just tells me when is enough. Just go with the flow, if it's to much then that was supposed to happen and enjoy it.
This is every man for himself. I've learned my lesson this time.
 
I'm sorry but that's just straight up irresponsible advice that I'll kindly ask you to refrain giving to people on this forum.

And to anyone reading this - please, always be responsible and weigh your doses properly. Being reckless can lead you to some positive outcomes, but it can also lead you to some horrible situations that I don't want to get into. There's plenty of reports that cover such cases.
I'm sorry but that's just straight up irresponsible advice that I'll kindly ask you to refrain giving to people on this forum.

And to anyone reading this - please, always be responsible and weigh your doses properly. Being reckless can lead you to some positive outcomes, but it can also lead you to some horrible situations that I don't want to get into. There's plenty of reports that cover such cases.
100% true. I'll know better next time!
 
I'm sorry but that's just straight up irresponsible advice that I'll kindly ask you to refrain giving to people on this forum.

And to anyone reading this - please, always be responsible and weigh your doses properly. Being reckless can lead you to some positive outcomes, but it can also lead you to some horrible situations that I don't want to get into. There's plenty of reports that cover such cases.
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Many people do it this way. If you're in tune with your body, it will let you know when it is enough. Even if it is to much, you go for the journey and it works out in the end. It wasn't advice , was just the way it's done for me. 🥰
 
Thank you for such a kind reply.

Just go with the flow, if it's to much then that was supposed to happen and enjoy it.
I respect your approach. The one thing I don't weigh is changa (sometimes I won't weigh mushrooms), so it's not like I don't get it. But is that advice that should be given? Probably not. I say this because in what's quoted above, the tone went from subjective preference to a more ambiguous statement that could be interpreted as advice. That's why @Nydex chimed in. The other thing, is that for some, too high a dose of 5-MEO-DMT can have drastic consequences. Everyone is different, so weighing doses is a risk management move.

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Some good advice here

@X-Rayzor the breathing thing is a commonly reported sensation. I’m sure you will get used to it. Having peace of mind with your dose is one assurance.

The timeline of content unfolding in the DMT space I think is much more compacted than normal reality. In the time it takes to breathe in and out I suspect much information is being processed. I thinkthis probably accounts for the sensation of not breathing.. there’s lots going down between each breath!

Just remember beforehand that breathing just happens, it’s not a process you need any will for. Keeping this sentiment close to your heart might help a little.. have faith in your breath! DMT at regular doses is non toxic and if anything probably is a good system cleanser if you can relax into the experience. Physically there isn’t much cause for concern in the normal dose range.

Hyperspace has your back, just let it envelope you and you might find many of these unpleasant sensations dissipate. 🙏

And weigh your doses :)
 
@stinkyfish this is your only warning. I already take issue with your tone, prose, and rhetoric. I will not allow you to so nonchalantly shrug off what has been directed to you. If you care to have a future interacting on this forum then read the attitude page several times. Otherwise, you can just go.


Respectful communication

Watch your language. Communication is comprised of not only the explicit but also the implicit messages, which are transmitted through choice of words and general tone of speech. We do not want curse words and immature slang in the

@stinkyfish this is your only warning. I already take issue with your tone, prose, and rhetoric. I will not allow you to so nonchalantly shrug off what has been directed to you. If you care to have a future interacting on this forum then read the attitude page several times. Otherwise, you can just go.


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Watch your language. Communication is comprised of not only the explicit but also the implicit messages, which are transmitted through choice of words and general tone of speech. We do not want curse words and immature slang in the Nexus! Please use language in a dignified
 
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