observationtype said:
What if our spirits are stuck in complexity? What if some higher, malevolent, negative entities, which are also part of our total godnature, decided to create a spiritual system prison/trap and not a school?
I don't think we need to speculate on what if, because it's clear that western mainstream culture is indeed a spirit trap. It denies almost all individual spirituality and does it's best to keep people from experiencing their own spirituality. For instance, the Catholic Church impresses upon it's obedient followers the need to experience what they call God through, and only through, the Church. There is much discussion at Mass of how salvation can only be had through them, and I've never once heard a priest tell a mass that one should explore themselves as deeply as possible. In fact, they seem to push people away from that very thing.
Look at how the governments give us passports so that we have an identity, for our ego, for our physical body.
Look at how we have to work for money, the god of our times.
Look at how materialistic and self-service oriented our society is.
Look at how mind-opening drugs like dmt, lsd etc. are banned and selfdestructive drugs like alkohol, cigarettes etc. are allowed.
Look at our social norms, political correctness and shallow niceness.
Look at how religions want us to believe that there is a personal god for each of us.
Those are all excellent examples of the concept I wrote above. It's not only the churches that do this, it's also the state, and church and state work together to form the government. I don't have any evidence that there is any higher power doing this "trapping of spirits" but certainly the so-called ruling class uses it's tools of church and state (including media) to manipulate the people, and keep them from any self exploration.
Religions don't tell us that we are gods! I believe we are gods, infinite beings. Infact, nobody tells us this. They lie to us and we believe them. I mean, something just doesn't seem right. It is as if our societies want us to distract from our true selves.
That is exactly what our current system wants, to distract us. If you think it doesn't seem right you are on the right track. If churches told us that we're gods, whether it's true or not, whatever power they have over us would disintegrate immediately and all their intricately woven plans of control and manipulation would fall to pieces.
What I would like to know from you, fellow SWIM dmt consumers, is if you have the same impression? Could this be possible? Has this possibility already been discussed here?
Indeed I do have the same impression, although with a slightly different view on where this "trap" originates from. It is possible, and it IS. The history of what we call civilization is actually a history of slavery and manipulation of perception. When you realize that then you can break free from it and truly find yourself and freedom for yourself.
To make this whole system work, there might even be "matrix agents". Individuals without spirit who can be characterized as intelligent but lack some sort of deeper feelings, creativity or service to others mentality, so that humans with spirit act as they do. Some sort of social programming so to speak. These agents would then be too part of a spiritual technology. I would assign them even such a high intelligence as to deliberately talk the prison hypothesis in this thread down. This doesn't mean that criticism isn't welcome here - just to clarify the extent of what I hypothesize.
That's an interesting concept. People who seem to lack spirit as "matrix agents". Well, consider this. A great many politicians, businessmen, police, etc., people in positions of power, fit the profile for sociopaths/psychopaths. You see, they have no empathy, no sympathy, no love, no compassion, no guilt. They have a strong tendency for wanting to control, they crave power and are often sadistic/masochistic, that is, they despise people they view as weak, and they adore people they view as powerful. This is not my theory, this has been confirmed by many studies and many books by scholars. These are the people who play a large part in shaping our society and they often influence large sections of the population through their policies and their place in the public spotlight. Now, these "sociopaths" or spiritless matrix agents, exist at all levels of society, on the bottom they are usually imprisoned, the more clever, mid-level ones, can control themselves and often excel in small business or join the ranks of the overseers, that is, police, soldiers, prison guards, and if they happen to be born into a wealthy family the become politicians and often CEOs or even celebrities. This is not to say that all powerful people are sociopaths, but a great many are.
endlessness said:
I think more like this: I am alive, right now.. I could live my day obsessed with all sorts of conspiracy matrix nightmare-like scenarios about existence, or I could live daydreaming the most lovely puffy sweet fantasies..... Or... I could just live, now, try to make the best out of every moment, because who knows the before and after, but at least the now is there and can be used productively.
You know, like, recycle, be good to your neighboor, be patient, be healthy, be as conscious as possible, be self-critical and strive for self improvement. Dont get caught up in too many distractions.. ETs and illuminatis or not, the firewood still needs to be gathered if you know what I mean. AND HAVE FUN! Because who knows if there is another ride, but this one is guaranteed
All that is true and I do agree with you, why dwell on the negative? But, and I think this is an important point, if we ignore the negative and pretend it doesn't exist we run the risk of becoming more ensnared in it's trap. It is a fact that small groups of people have consistently, since the beginning of "civilization", enslaved, manipulated, lied to, exploited, robbed and otherwise screwed the majority of people out of their right to freedom and their ability to fully develop their personal identity, or self, or spirit. People have lots of different names for these so-called conspiracies, but I dislike these names because they are misleading and there is no conspiracy, it's simply the way things are. The fact is that it IS the course of history and humanity. We, the people, are generally ignorant of this fact due to mass manipulation of perception and the OP's concept of spirit traps. If we can become aware of it we can avoid it.
All that being said, I agree, HAVE FUN, because without that life isn't worth much. I'll end with a quote from Emma Goldman, the famous, or perhaps infamous, anarchist, "If I can't dance it's not my revolution!"
