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syrian rue and oral dmt
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Yes, powder them in a coffee grinder as much as possible. Filter your tea with cheesecloth or a similar material. Don't get too stuck on the filtering. All the nausea is not from the plant matter, but from the harmala alkaloids. So your dose is a stronger factor here
How do you "ingest" the dmt? Just with water or soda?
Haha thank you brother I will update how it wasYes, powder them in a coffee grinder as much as possible. Filter your tea with cheesecloth or a similar material. Don't get too stuck on the filtering. All the nausea is not from the plant matter, but from the harmala alkaloids. So your dose is a stronger factor here
Ok so I found that the maoi was too strong 3 g should be much less I couldn't move almost and super no cognitive , also 40 mg DM not felt enough its was very body feeling with a little visuals ,but still bit experience of it second dose without redosing maoi 2 later didn't works , my question how to reach traditional ayauasca experience something was wrong in the preparation? Or it's tolerance, usually In changa it's a lot of hyperspace also with the traditional ayauasca, thanks for the answers 
I'd say 3g is a starting dose for most people, and I'd not go lower. Your experience is most likely a combination of both rue and dmt. You can try 3g on its own and see what's different. Making a tea from your dmt plant may give a more traditional effect too.
Further, ayahuasca is ayahuasca and not rue. You can still get to a similar depth, but it will never be the same. You can try extracting harmalas, and it may be easier for you to work with - basically go pharma all the way. I prefer plant teas, but we are all different.
Further, ayahuasca is ayahuasca and not rue. You can still get to a similar depth, but it will never be the same. You can try extracting harmalas, and it may be easier for you to work with - basically go pharma all the way. I prefer plant teas, but we are all different.
thanks for message yeah i prfer plant tea as well but unfortunately i dont have access to plants dmt only pure , the thing is that i felt its very weak experince with visuals , also very short , when i wanted to do redosing , it didnt work , thats why im thinking the best way to do it , base on my conditaions thank you
Sounds like not enough MAO inhibition, actually. For me, 4g of rue is the dose where I get the most out of DMT before the experience becomes difficult bodywise (disorientation, nausea, being floored, hehe). You can try extracting harmalas, and it'll be easier to find a consistent dose for yourself. Otherwise, just experiment with your rue tea until you find the sweet spot for yourself. Trying rue on its own is a must, imo. You'll know its effect and timing better. You can dissolve your dose of DMT in a shot of an acidic beverage like orange juice or cola, too. Basically, experiment a bit and see what fits.
Best of luck
Best of luck
3.5g-4g of rue will give you full inhibition and id rec starting at 30mg of dmt since people have different sensitivities. i personally stick to around 60-70mg of dmt (in form of mimosa) and it always gives me full blown visionary experiences. work up slow and steady and find your 'perfect" range. i usually crush my seeds in a coffee grinder, cap em and eat them and wait about 45 mins to an hour.
when i use mimosa the experience usually is 4.5 hours or so, sometimes it can last 6-7 hours if i ate something before i dosed.
Yes, because Mimosa lasts longer than pure DMT on its own. And I recommend redosing during the first comedown, not waiting until it fully comes down.
thank you brother i will try it , what about redosing , because , the redosing didnt works after 2hours , i should take another dose of syrian rue , because its very vary intense on the body more then traditional ayauhasca thank youSounds like not enough MAO inhibition, actually. For me, 4g of rue is the dose where I get the most out of DMT before the experience becomes difficult bodywise (disorientation, nausea, being floored, hehe). You can try extracting harmalas, and it'll be easier to find a consistent dose for yourself. Otherwise, just experiment with your rue tea until you find the sweet spot for yourself. Trying rue on its own is a must, imo. You'll know its effect and timing better. You can dissolve your dose of DMT in a shot of an acidic beverage like orange juice or cola, too. Basically, experiment a bit and see what fits.
Best of luck
Like I said before, try rue tea on its own and see how it goes. If you think 3g is too much for such an experiment, try 2g. It'll be easier to judge what rue's effects are after that. When it comes to your main session, I'd stick to one dose until you adjust it right. For many years, I just drank 3g of rue and 3-5g of mimosa/acacia tea 25min later. It was enough to give 5+ hour medicine sessions with sufficient depth.
Don't get stuck on redosing, and if you go that way, redose some rue too. Like I said, maybe put your dmt into a shot of orange juice for better absorption. Rue has a different harmala profile than caapi, so sure enough it feels different. Like, there is more harmaline in it, and it usually feels heavy for people. You could roast your seeds beforehand on medium heat, and it'd make them more mellow.
thank you for the message, i got you i will try the rue first , to check it out , another thing because i dont have acsess to mimosa root , and of course i prefere it rather then pure dmt in capsuls, i know mimosa tea wroks better , but yeah if i still have onky dmt pure how can i work with that properly , that it will feel enough ? thank you
I only work with plant teas, and even then, it's trickier than just cooking a batch of ayahuasca. There are no clear answers, and each body is different. You can only experiment yourself with doses, timing, redosing, and so on. You can even add your dmt to the rue tea at a reducing stage and ingest it aya style. Some of it will get lost in the process, so maybe upping it to something like 50mg would work for you. Once again, it should be tested and adjusted by yourself. The whole process is simple and just needs experimentation. Good luck
