The High Diet

[Espurrr]

Our diets is similar, but still so different, im also on a raw diet, but carnivore (primal) . Its good to see other people who are thinking wisely about modern food. For each of us its a diverse way

i tried that several years ago for around 2 years in total, i could never feel like myself at the height of my clarity and capability on that diet, not even close

and that prolonged struggle changed my nervous system for the worst, i had to spend a lot of time coming back to myself, and thats putting it mildly, the sheer destitution of it is beyond description

though the question of human nourishment is admittedly complex enough that no one can stand in front of you and expound the truth of it, so its good to keep that in mind before being convinced by a certain line of reasoning of some kind

 

[Espurrr]

the choices that we as individual humans make about what we put in our mouth, is i think most strongly affected by our state of consciousness

it is very difficult to be totally aware of your own consciousness

so before you read this as some kind of given i want to emphasize that, in reality most people's state of consciousness is constantly influenced by what they are consuming

as opposed to a scenario where your state of consciousness stays the same, and you choose what to eat because it will stabilize your centered awareness upon yourself

(again, not very common, also you'd have to have arrived in a centered and harmonious state first to be able to maintain that and give it stability, if you experience a unpleasant state you are unlikely to try to maintain it)

this is also going to be influenced by alot of things, for example we tend to reference our past experiences of eating in search of what worked for us, and specially if the traditional cuisine and cultural atmosphere of where you're brought up has never been influenced by the prioritization of the effect of food on consciousness rather than, general health, energy expenditure etc, then you're going to have a harder time understanding how to navigate into your natural self by responding intelligently to your own needs

 

[taita]

I was raw vegan for about a year in total, as a culmination of 20 years of vegetarianism, and five of veganism. While it was a good cleanse over relatively short timeframes, I found it difficult to maintain. I found it hard to parse legitimate health benefits from orthorexic virtue points, which is a real danger with any restrictive diet. Beware the purity spiral... Humans have been cooking food since before we were homo sapiens, so any appeal to naturalism with raw veganism falls far short.

I can definitely see the utility and benefit of short-term raw food cleanses on the order of a week to a month or two, but at least for me it was not a sustainable long-term diet.

To each their own of course, and more power to you if it's working well for you. As a now pescatarian-leaning omnivore, finding the optimal diet for myself is an ongoing process, but it's certainly nice not spending so much time thinking about and preparing food as I did when I was raw vegan.

 

[Espurrr]

I was raw vegan for about a year in total

i guess the start of this thread gives that image, i wonder if i could fix that since i don't seem to be able to edit it

i don't really subscribe to the idea that humans can only eat fresh foods or even only raw foods, personally i cook beans and tubers on a daily basis, and consume fermented foods like kimchi along side it, but i consume anything that can actually be digested without cooking fresh

the human organism is not very simple, life can be simple when the people you live with (or are influenced by) , which used to be 30-50 people for the better part of human evolution, have honestly reflected upon the effects and results of various ways of living, and unanimously decided to pursue the best possibility, which would become the automatic flow of things in everyones lives

today, we are living in a global psychotic society, any one will say any thing with utter disregard as to the reality checking of their own claim, and this is not very uncommon, it can come from the largest official institutions down to your average social media influencer

so more than ever before an individual needs to rely on developing their capacity for self observation, reality checking, learning to separate cause and effect from things that are only associated together, as to avoid confusion and dysregulation in their lives

 

[Transform]

i guess the start of this thread gives that image, i wonder if i could fix that since i don't seem to be able to edit it

Send me a PM with your edit and I'll sort it out. Some old posts get edit-locked to help preserve continuity in the threads.

can definitely see the utility and benefit of short-term raw food cleanses on the order of a week to a month or two, but at least for me it was not a sustainable long-term diet.

This is essentially the same conclusion as I came to after six months raw vegan - come the colder weather I was suddenly impossibly ravenous. I may have mentioned before elsewhere on the forum how the hunger-impaired decision to break the fast with fish and chips nearly killed me, so those of you out there who may be going this route will surely prove more sensible than I in light of this - and if you're wondering how it happened, the chippy was the first food joint on my five mile hike into town

 

[new_science]

How did the chippies nearly kill you? So good that you overate and got a bowel obstruction?

 

[Jamie01]

Our diets is similar, but still so different, im also on a raw diet, but carnivore (primal) . Its good to see other people who are thinking wisely about modern food. For each of us its a diverse way

Have you found an increase in aggression on the diet?…I don’t even mean in a negative sense, it could be positive. I felt a sharpening of my senses and an increase in aggression(testosterone?).

I would argue more with clients at work, my boss or coworkers etc. In the past I would shut up more so I think it was good but also at times like I just lost my filter and would say whatever I felt.

Eventually I found I wanted cooked greens and fresh fruit with my meat.

an increase in

 

[northape]

I get quite horny and aggressive if I eat mostly meat. Last Christmas, I ate a ton of smoked wild boar, and it took me a while to get back with the program and reconnect to the spiritual side of life

 

[Transform]

In line with @Espurrr's observation that intestinal activity can lead to sexual arousal, I'll note that even Heinz' baked beans could be considered a physical aphrodisiac, albeit one fraught with the somewhat repellent side-effect that's also the essential cause of this property in the first place.

How did the chippies nearly kill you? So good that you overate and got a bowel obstruction?

Actually, quite the opposite - projectile vomiting and diarrhoea, and I don't think it was on account of any pathogens either - just the sudden influx of greasy cooked stuff.

 

[new_science]

Oh my gosh. I am glad you survived that episode. I would be so disheartened if I was chowing on some epic grease and it refused to stay inside...

 

[ommani]

Actually, quite the opposite - projectile vomiting and diarrhoea, and I don't think it was on account of any pathogens either - just the sudden influx of greasy cooked stuff.

That sounds terrible and I’m glad you lived to tell the tale. With that said, I think I would make a good British bloke… eating fish and chips all hours of the day, meeting up with the lads for a pint after work, tripping on liberty caps in the countryside, and going to d&b/jungle/garage parties on weekends sounds like it would be a good fit for me. Instead, I’m stuck here in the land of burgers and hotdogs with nary a Neolithic ruin in sight.

 

[taita]

That sounds terrible and I’m glad you lived to tell the tale. With that said, I think I would make a good British bloke… eating fish and chips all hours of the day, meeting up with the lads for a pint after work, tripping on liberty caps in the countryside, and going to d&b/jungle/garage parties on weekends sounds like it would be a good fit for me. Instead, I’m stuck here in the land of burgers and hotdogs with nary a Neolithic ruin in sight.

There's plenty of interesting ancient sites in the Americas! Maybe not a lot of stone, but plenty of mounds. I went to the biggest earthworks north of Mexico the other week (Cahokia Mounds - an ancient city) and it was dope. Tons of bundleflower all over there too

 

[ommani]

There's plenty of interesting ancient sites in the Americas! Maybe not a lot of stone, but plenty of mounds. I went to the biggest earthworks north of Mexico the other week (Cahokia Mounds - an ancient city) and it was dope. Tons of bundleflower all over there too

You're right, I need to get out and explore more. I know the Four Corners area has some cool ruins, which I could theoretically drive to. The truth is, I don't like to drive far, which has helped me to keep the miles on my subaru down, but has also limited what I've seen of the area and surrounding states. I guess it's all about finding a balance, which ties back in nicely with the topic of diet/nutrition.