How come? Didn't say the extraction failed, just that it was tarry. Besides, your bufotenine extraction was pretty potent, right?SpasticSpaz said:Hmm, that's frustrating.
I guess sticking to Jorkest's method is the way to go.
Yes, meaning you burn the seed at higher temperatures or for a longer time. Toast it until it smells burned and the internals of the seed is black and very brittle. Should remove the toxins.Jorkest said:charcoaled?
I wonder if the tarry substance can be removed by either gelatin or egg whites...I know that when I use it on mimosa it tends to trap similar compounds in the precipitate. Something to try out some daySpasticSpaz said:Also, the word "tarry" for SWIM conjures up a black tarry extract that produced nasty projectile vomiting when bioassayed. Not good memories.
soulfood said:What you have there will be bufotenine with other alkaloids and toxins.
I'd highly recommend purifying further.
SWIM tried smoking an impure extract and it wasn't making him nauseous but it wasn't potent enough to do the job.
A homeless guy on the bus reading over my shoulder just said to do the opposite.mapp said:toss the limonene & keep the tar?
I don't think there is much, if any toxins left. The heating should take care of it.mapp said:soulfood said:What you have there will be bufotenine with other alkaloids and toxins.
I'd highly recommend purifying further.
SWIM tried smoking an impure extract and it wasn't making him nauseous but it wasn't potent enough to do the job.
Ah. SWIM wasn't sure of the present toxin amount, as he had read that toasting the seeds before and after basifying removes the toxins. Although... SWIM only "toasted" at 450F in the oven for about 15 minutes each time..
69ron said:* Coarsely grind 100 grams of Vilca seeds.
* Add 1 part pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) and mix in enough water to make it wet. NOTE: sodium carbonate works as a substitute for lime in all steps of this extraction tech.
* Mix for about 10 minutes and let it dry completely. There must not be any water present at all before going to the next step.
* Dissolve the mix in 500 ml of dry acetone. Filter out the solids. Repeat with more acetone until the acetone is nearly clear.
* Evaporate the acetone down to about 100 ml.
* Add 10% citric acid solution to the acetone until no more precipitation is seen. It will take about 30 ml of 10% citric acid solution for 100 grams of seeds. NOTE: to make the citric acid solution, dissolve 10 grams of citric acid in 100 ml of dry acetone. I will take a while for the citric acid to dissolve in the acetone, so prepare this solution several hours ahead of time.
* Carefully pour out the acetone leaving behind the precipitates. Discard the acetone.
* Dry the precipitates completely leaving crude bufotenine citrate and other junk. Bufotenine citrate is a goo and not very active. You don’t want it in this form.
* Slowly mix in lime until the goo becomes a dry powder. Then add water to make the mix wet and mix for about 10 minutes and let the mix dry completely. There must not be any water present at all before going to the next step.
* Grind the mix to a powder. Dissolve in 100 ml acetone and filter out the solids. Repeat with more acetone until the acetone is nearly clear.
* Evaporate the collected acetone to get nearly pure freebase bufotenine.
imPsimon said:69ron said:* Coarsely grind 100 grams of Vilca seeds.
* Add 1 part pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) and mix in enough water to make it wet. NOTE: sodium carbonate works as a substitute for lime in all steps of this extraction tech.
* Mix for about 10 minutes and let it dry completely. There must not be any water present at all before going to the next step.
* Dissolve the mix in 500 ml of dry acetone. Filter out the solids. Repeat with more acetone until the acetone is nearly clear.
* Evaporate the acetone down to about 100 ml.
* Add 10% citric acid solution to the acetone until no more precipitation is seen. It will take about 30 ml of 10% citric acid solution for 100 grams of seeds. NOTE: to make the citric acid solution, dissolve 10 grams of citric acid in 100 ml of dry acetone. I will take a while for the citric acid to dissolve in the acetone, so prepare this solution several hours ahead of time.
* Carefully pour out the acetone leaving behind the precipitates. Discard the acetone.
* Dry the precipitates completely leaving crude bufotenine citrate and other junk. Bufotenine citrate is a goo and not very active. You don’t want it in this form.
* Slowly mix in lime until the goo becomes a dry powder. Then add water to make the mix wet and mix for about 10 minutes and let the mix dry completely. There must not be any water present at all before going to the next step.
* Grind the mix to a powder. Dissolve in 100 ml acetone and filter out the solids. Repeat with more acetone until the acetone is nearly clear.
* Evaporate the collected acetone to get nearly pure freebase bufotenine.
Hi! I have some quick questions
How pure is "nearly pure" using this tek? Will there be enough nasty stuff to make me nasious? color of end product?
Also, what would be a typical yield using this tek only?...if all goes well...
Thank you for your time =)